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Post by Kinda Long Hair Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:21 pm

which is better.

I chose capitalism... if that wasnt obvious
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Post by Strong Vader Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:58 pm

Speaking of economic systems, you know what would be interesting? If the US economic system was a bartering system...

Hey, how's Citi's stock doing? Um, last I've heard, it was up two apples and a half-dead goat.
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Post by Kinda Long Hair Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:31 am

Strong Vader wrote:Hey, how's Citi's stock doing? Um, last I've heard, it was up two apples and a half-dead goat.

"Hey, I want a share in Apple" "Okay, that'll be three cows!"
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Post by Aiko Heiwa Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:01 pm

Communism is the superior one.
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Post by Uzi-Bazooka Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:04 am

Interesting position. Now back it up. Why is it so superior, oh ye of obviously-lives-in-America?
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Post by Aiko Heiwa Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:54 pm

Communism is superior due to the simple fact that products produced don't belong to one person or a group of people to sell back at a higher price, they belong to the state. This prevents the exploit of the working-class.

And since everyone is the same under a Communist society, you can't go blaming problems on the lower-class, because there is no lower-class.

Now, I admit, due to the fact that humans are greedy, we can never reach a Communist utopia as described by Marx and Engels.
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Post by Kinda Long Hair Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:59 pm

"Communism won't work because people like to own things" -Frank Zappa
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Post by Aiko Heiwa Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:09 pm

I just said that.
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Post by Kinda Long Hair Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:12 pm

I just like having relevant quotes of people who I am fans of.

Anyways, aren't you going with free enterprise in wanting to buy a Wii?
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Post by The Wheelchair Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:14 pm

I prefer lowercasism over capitalism.
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Post by Uzi-Bazooka Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:05 pm

Aiko Heiwa wrote:Communism is superior due to the simple fact that products produced don't belong to one person or a group of people to sell back at a higher price, they belong to the state. This prevents the exploit of the working-class.

And since everyone is the same under a Communist society, you can't go blaming problems on the lower-class, because there is no lower-class.

Now, I admit, due to the fact that humans are greedy, we can never reach a Communist utopia as described by Marx and Engels.
Ever read the book Animal Farm? Worth reading.
Well, you are correct. In theory, communism is better. Unfortunately, in the land of reality, that would never work. Basically, instead of having a lower class, EVERYONE is lower class, except for the few dictators who rise to the top.
This is my problem with Communism. I just can't really follow any system that doesn't actually work in real life. I mean, like I said, it's a great idea. But there's no way it could ever work, and therefore it is pointless. Mere ideas have no value.

CASH MONEY wrote:"Communism won't work because people like to own things" -Frank Zappa
Personally, my favorite Frank Zappa quote is "Some people like cupcakes exclusively, while myself, I say there is naught nor ought there be nothing so exalted on the face of God's gray Earth as that prince of foods... the muffin!"

The Wheelchair wrote:I prefer lowercasism over capitalism.
Shut up, Wheelsonboroughborough-san.
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Post by The Wheelchair Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:07 pm

Uzi-Bazooka wrote:
The Wheelchair wrote:I prefer lowercasism over capitalism.
Shut up, Wheelsonboroughborough-san.
That's Wheelsonboroughboroughborough-san to you.
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Post by Uzi-Bazooka Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:16 pm

Sorry, TW.
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Post by Aiko Heiwa Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:28 pm

Uzi-Bazooka wrote:dictators
There can be no such thing as a Communist dictatorship.

Also, inb4 North Korea.
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Post by Uzi-Bazooka Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:32 pm

You can be a dictator even if you're not known as "the dictator." Adolf Hitler called himself the "Führer," which literally means "guide."
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Post by Aiko Heiwa Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:39 pm

I am aware of that.

But, in a true Communist society, it would be a complete democracy.
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Post by Kinda Long Hair Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:45 pm

Aiko Heiwa wrote:I am aware of that.

But, in a true Communist society, it would be a complete democracy.

isn't that kind of an oxymoron? Like jumbo-shrimp?
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Post by Aiko Heiwa Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:47 pm

How?
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Post by Kinda Long Hair Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:55 pm

because in most Communist societies, it's "We control everything, including your lives!!1!" Last time I checked, that's not Democratic

Anyways, SV knows more about it. I'll let him take it from here.
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Post by Aiko Heiwa Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:08 pm

CASH MONEY wrote:because in most Communist societies, it's "We control everything, including your lives!!1!" Last time I checked, that's not Democratic
That's a Totalitarian society, not Communist.
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Post by Uzi-Bazooka Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:33 pm

MMM, will you at least PRETEND to have a clue what we're talking about? Ye gods, you might as well be living off of 50s and 60s propaganda.
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Post by Aiko Heiwa Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:05 pm

Uzi-Bazooka wrote:MMM, will you at least PRETEND to have a clue what we're talking about? Ye gods, you might as well be living off of 50s and 60s propaganda.
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Post by These are my saturdays Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:08 pm

Uzi-Bazooka wrote: 50s and 60s propaganda.

ДMЗЯICДИS??? THЭУ'ЯЗ ДLL GЦM CHЭШIЙG GДИGSTЗЯS

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Post by Uzi-Bazooka Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:18 pm

ALL HAIL THE CANADIANS.
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Post by Aiko Heiwa Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:19 pm

[quote="duty now"]
Uzi-Bazooka wrote: ДMЗЯICДИS??? THЭУ'ЯЗ ДLL GЦM CHЭШIЙG GДИGSTЗЯS
I just translated that into English.

DMZYAICDIS?? THEU'YAZ DLL GTSM CHESHIYG GDIGSTZYAS
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